he has the exact time and date they pitched it to harry reid. 2:30 on july 27, 2011. is the president guilty of not letting the facts get in the way of a good talking point against the republicans? >> well, again, i know in that particular instance, trying to resolve a crisis on whether to raise the debt ceiling and default our debt, he suggested that as an alternative. the republican has it in the cut, cap and balance plan months before that and remember in the house anyway. 170-something republicans provided more votes for the sequester idea than democrats did. i voted against it. knew it was a bad idea. but i think both sides were equally culpable in doing something that was absolutely nonsensical and we should do now is just admit what we did was silly. >> i would like you to listen to your democratic colleague, debbie wasserman schultz on our air yesterday. >> do republicans consider the sequester leverage. the looming shutdown leverage so they can get the spending cuts they want and protect the tax breaks they have been trying to protect for the wealthiest ameri